I came across a very interesting article in Time Magazine today. The issue is dated 7/23/07. On page 28 there is an article called "How Democrats got Religion" and it's the cover story.
It gives the lowdown on the three big candidates, Clinton, Obama and Edwards, and delves a little into each of their belief systems.
Clinton, of course, is Methodist, and Edwards was raised Southern Baptist, so many of their comments about politics and religion weren't that surprising. The big kicker was Barack Obama though. This article says he was raised secular, and according to him, his decision to go Christian was "a choice and not an epiphany."
Now last year, apparently Obama spoke at the Sojourners/Call to Renewal gathering and challenged Democrats to make it harder for Republicans to paint them as hedonists, so to speak.
This is a direct quote from that article on page 30-31:
"If we scrub language of all religious content, we forfeit the imagery and terminology through which millions of Americans understand both their personal morality and social justice. Secularists are wrong when they tell believers to leave their religion at the door before entering the public square."
I seriously had to re-read that statement about 4 or 5 times to make absolutely certain that I was clear on what it said. Did Barack Obama just endorse religion in the public arena???? Isn't that unconstitutional?
What I want to know is, is the ACLU's phone going to be ringing off the hook? Or will Barack Obama get a pass from the leftist voters on this issue?
From what I've seen on the internet so far, many people are spinning this to make it look like it's not such a bad thing, that Obama really isn't "really speaking for all secularists because they couldn't find that many that agree with him." Why take this approach??? Let's have some balls, people!
Why are Obama's words taken in stride and accepted in the mainstream, and are so much "softer" than other people's? He is plainly endorsing it right here, whether many secularists truly side with him on this issue or not. It's out there in print. He said it in front of a huge group of people.
I'm going to try an illustrate my point.
Let's take Mr. Evangelist Bible Thumper preacher and put him in the middle of the Southern Baptist Convention, and he is surrounded by all his bible thumping friends. He strolls up to the podium and says the following, on camera for everyone to see:
"If we scrub language of all religious content, we forfeit the imagery and terminology through which millions of Americans understand both their personal morality and social justice. Secularists are wrong when they tell believers to leave their religion at the door before entering the public square."
What is your reaction now?
I think all non-believers who are seriously considering voting for Barack Obama really take a look at what this man stands for. I mean, one minute, he's secular, the next, he's Christian. His father was a Muslim, then he was an Atheist. His mother was a religious skeptic. He says so right here in this video:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/faith/
I'd like to hear from everyone on this. Do you think Obama should get a pass for what he said in this article, or should he be held accountable to the 16% of non-believers in this country (and growing) that might be considering voting for him as the next President of the United States?
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Bring it with you where ever you go but don't infuse it with school and government. It is not unconstitutional to be religious but to infuse a religion into laws or curriculums. I still remain an undecided voter and am about a year off before I need to be solid in my choice.
I went back and watched this video again in its entirety and made notes. He gives very fair minded criticisms to both sides of this issue, while at the same time sharing how he came to Christ. It's a very interesting story, one that everyone should be open to. I won't reiterate the text of it because it would take too long and I think people should watch it for themselves. But one more thing stood out in my mind that he said:
"Not every mention of God is a breach of the wall of separation. It's doubtful that reciting (or muttering) the Pledge of Allegiance and quoting the words "under God" is tantamount to brainwashing. He says that he didn't feel brainwashed when he did it."
And this is coming from someone who was raised by a Muslim father who later turned atheist.
I took the liberty earlier today to email the ACLU and ask them what they think of Obama's verbiage in his speech. I'm pretty sure that I won't hear back from them. Not unless I decide to attack one of the nearby schools around here, then I'm sure they will be banging my door down. ation.
I've contacted the aclu before and never received a return call.
Yeah I got an email back from the ACLU finally. They want me join and donate money to their cause. Yeah, that will never happen. As long as they support groups like NAMBLA, I will never put my signature on anything that resembles the ACLU. And they will never get a dime from me. And they still have nothing on their website about this "infringement" made by Barack Obama that I could see. It just proves to me that Barack Obama will get away with endorsing religion in the public arena because he is 1) liberal and 2) he is out there trying to get votes. Because he is only trying to get votes, this behavior doesn't really "count" as an infringement and therefore he will get a complete pass. Nobody on the left will question him. But you can bet that Romney and Thompson will get pounded for their religious beliefs.
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